1 00:00:03,830 --> 00:00:02,869 okay now for our interview with dr ron 2 00:00:05,510 --> 00:00:03,840 scott 3 00:00:07,030 --> 00:00:05,520 is this someone that you were familiar 4 00:00:10,549 --> 00:00:07,040 with before all this 5 00:00:14,150 --> 00:00:10,559 came down well matt 6 00:00:15,829 --> 00:00:14,160 learned of our efforts uh through cd 7 00:00:17,269 --> 00:00:15,839 media 8 00:00:20,790 --> 00:00:17,279 he watched an interview with general 9 00:00:24,310 --> 00:00:20,800 bishop and reached out to general bishop 10 00:00:25,589 --> 00:00:24,320 regarding our interest in critical race 11 00:00:29,269 --> 00:00:25,599 theory 12 00:00:31,750 --> 00:00:29,279 and matt wanted to bring us up to speed 13 00:00:33,990 --> 00:00:31,760 on his own research 14 00:00:37,190 --> 00:00:34,000 what he had learned about marxism and 15 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:37,200 how it was infiltrating our institutions 16 00:00:41,110 --> 00:00:39,760 insidiously i mean a lot of people good 17 00:00:43,910 --> 00:00:41,120 people 18 00:00:45,110 --> 00:00:43,920 just have no idea and when i asked even 19 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,120 my own peers 20 00:00:49,430 --> 00:00:47,280 have they heard a critical race theory 21 00:00:51,270 --> 00:00:49,440 i'd say seven out of ten will say what 22 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:51,280 is it 23 00:00:57,029 --> 00:00:55,120 so it's an ideology that has taken root 24 00:00:58,470 --> 00:00:57,039 in our institutions across the entire 25 00:01:01,910 --> 00:00:58,480 federal government 26 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:01,920 and a lot of decent people have no idea 27 00:01:05,830 --> 00:01:04,159 how dangerous it is and what it's 28 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:05,840 setting us up for 29 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:08,960 and so matt had the courage to uh 30 00:01:12,789 --> 00:01:11,920 to give the world the benefit of his 31 00:01:15,429 --> 00:01:12,799 research 32 00:01:16,469 --> 00:01:15,439 especially being on active duty and 33 00:01:19,510 --> 00:01:16,479 seeing it 34 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:19,520 among the ranks really 35 00:01:26,870 --> 00:01:23,600 concerned him and you know he had 36 00:01:27,749 --> 00:01:26,880 people who respect him immensely let him 37 00:01:30,310 --> 00:01:27,759 know that 38 00:01:31,429 --> 00:01:30,320 you know if you go public with this it's 39 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:31,439 potentially 40 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:34,320 controversial and it could impact your 41 00:01:37,990 --> 00:01:35,040 career 42 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:38,000 your standing with with the air force 43 00:01:42,870 --> 00:01:39,360 well it was only 44 00:01:44,950 --> 00:01:42,880 months ago that the policy coming from 45 00:01:46,149 --> 00:01:44,960 the highest level the commander-in-chief 46 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:46,159 president trump 47 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:48,880 was absolutely no critical race theory 48 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:49,680 being taught 49 00:01:53,109 --> 00:01:51,520 in the military or in the federal 50 00:01:55,429 --> 00:01:53,119 government at all 51 00:01:56,950 --> 00:01:55,439 so we're just a few months removed from 52 00:01:59,350 --> 00:01:56,960 that policy 53 00:02:00,870 --> 00:01:59,360 here you now have someone speaking out 54 00:02:02,389 --> 00:02:00,880 in in writing a book this lieutenant 55 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:02,399 colonel matthew lohmeyer 56 00:02:06,709 --> 00:02:04,000 about critical race theory in the 57 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:06,719 military and 58 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:10,399 being removed of his position for it 59 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:12,560 well more than removed he was relieved 60 00:02:17,589 --> 00:02:14,560 of command for cause 61 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:17,599 and his commanding officer at the 62 00:02:20,830 --> 00:02:18,800 three-star level 63 00:02:22,229 --> 00:02:20,840 has initiated a commander directed 64 00:02:25,589 --> 00:02:22,239 investigation 65 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:25,599 to really uh more deeply examine 66 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:28,160 the circumstances surrounding matt's 67 00:02:31,350 --> 00:02:29,360 going public with 68 00:02:33,990 --> 00:02:31,360 what he learned about neo-marxism and 69 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:34,000 its uh its grip on america right now 70 00:02:37,030 --> 00:02:35,760 well let's talk through the military 71 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:37,040 procedure on that because i was really 72 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:38,800 curious about that and just 73 00:02:41,830 --> 00:02:40,239 bringing myself up to speed on this 74 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:41,840 story um 75 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:44,800 as far as what what exactly has happened 76 00:02:49,190 --> 00:02:45,760 to him 77 00:02:50,869 --> 00:02:49,200 thus far and because it seems to me 78 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:50,879 that they've already taken action 79 00:02:53,670 --> 00:02:52,160 without there being any any 80 00:02:54,949 --> 00:02:53,680 investigation 81 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:54,959 that now they're promising an 82 00:02:58,229 --> 00:02:56,720 investigation they're going to look into 83 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:58,239 whether this violated 84 00:03:01,670 --> 00:03:00,720 you know no politics in the military 85 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:01,680 type policies 86 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:03,760 so what exactly is the procedural 87 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:04,959 posture of his 88 00:03:11,110 --> 00:03:08,720 situation right now well 89 00:03:11,910 --> 00:03:11,120 there was a predicate of some sort which 90 00:03:14,309 --> 00:03:11,920 led to 91 00:03:15,509 --> 00:03:14,319 his being relieved of command our 92 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:15,519 understanding it was a 93 00:03:19,430 --> 00:03:17,440 interview that he had conducted on cd 94 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:19,440 media with todd wood 95 00:03:26,309 --> 00:03:22,480 his uh information operations program 96 00:03:28,550 --> 00:03:26,319 and following that interview uh 97 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:28,560 somehow he was directed to be relieved 98 00:03:32,149 --> 00:03:29,760 of command 99 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:32,159 this occurred friday i mean it was very 100 00:03:35,110 --> 00:03:33,280 when was the podcast 101 00:03:36,869 --> 00:03:35,120 it was a podcast right right it was 102 00:03:37,509 --> 00:03:36,879 earlier in the week earlier in the week 103 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:37,519 so yeah 104 00:03:41,190 --> 00:03:40,720 because the timeline in this is really 105 00:03:44,390 --> 00:03:41,200 kind of 106 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:44,400 unusual so he does a podcast 107 00:03:49,589 --> 00:03:47,760 early last week correct somehow 108 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:49,599 somebody learns about this and listens 109 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:51,920 to it and within a matter 110 00:03:58,470 --> 00:03:55,360 of a day or two from that 111 00:04:00,550 --> 00:03:58,480 he's relieved of his position exactly 112 00:04:01,589 --> 00:04:00,560 and and i saw the interview that matt 113 00:04:04,789 --> 00:04:01,599 had uh 114 00:04:08,149 --> 00:04:04,799 took part in and he was not really 115 00:04:12,070 --> 00:04:08,159 uh pointing fingers or identifying 116 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:12,080 people as uh being the uh 117 00:04:16,069 --> 00:04:13,840 the advocates of this he was just 118 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:16,079 pointing out that the ideology itself 119 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:17,919 that is manifesting 120 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:21,120 within our ranks is is dangerous and 121 00:04:26,790 --> 00:04:24,160 wanted to to call it out i mean 122 00:04:27,270 --> 00:04:26,800 my guess being far removed from this is 123 00:04:29,430 --> 00:04:27,280 that 124 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:29,440 perhaps it had more to do with the book 125 00:04:32,870 --> 00:04:30,400 that really 126 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:32,880 had bothered people that he dared to 127 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:34,400 release a book and just i'll 128 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:36,080 share the title with everybody i'm sure 129 00:04:40,629 --> 00:04:37,520 they've already seen it but 130 00:04:43,749 --> 00:04:40,639 irresistible revolution marxism's goal 131 00:04:45,350 --> 00:04:43,759 of conquest and the unmaking of the 132 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:45,360 american military 133 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:48,960 so you know pretty controversial 134 00:04:52,390 --> 00:04:51,600 title and in book to release while you 135 00:04:55,350 --> 00:04:52,400 are 136 00:04:56,070 --> 00:04:55,360 a lieutenant colonel um do you think 137 00:04:58,870 --> 00:04:56,080 perhaps that's 138 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:58,880 what got their attention no absolutely 139 00:05:02,550 --> 00:05:00,320 and i suspect that those that were 140 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:02,560 involved haven't even read the book 141 00:05:05,909 --> 00:05:05,120 uh and what i want to point out is that 142 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:05,919 uh 143 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:07,360 matt is two years below the zone of 144 00:05:11,590 --> 00:05:08,960 lieutenant colonel 145 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:11,600 and following air command staff college 146 00:05:14,950 --> 00:05:13,360 and in residence professional military 147 00:05:18,390 --> 00:05:14,960 education program 148 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:18,400 he was identified and invited 149 00:05:22,469 --> 00:05:20,400 to study for a year at the school of 150 00:05:24,310 --> 00:05:22,479 advanced air and space studies 151 00:05:26,070 --> 00:05:24,320 right there at maxwell and this is the 152 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:26,080 top one percent that gets selected for 153 00:05:29,029 --> 00:05:26,880 that 154 00:05:30,070 --> 00:05:29,039 and while he was there he did a deep 155 00:05:33,110 --> 00:05:30,080 dive 156 00:05:35,510 --> 00:05:33,120 into marxism critical race theory how 157 00:05:39,270 --> 00:05:35,520 it's manifesting in america 158 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:39,280 and it just really concerned him because 159 00:05:45,110 --> 00:05:42,479 unless you are alerted to it and take 160 00:05:47,670 --> 00:05:45,120 the time to really look into it 161 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:47,680 this stuff is pretty innocuous uh as i 162 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:49,039 mentioned seven out of ten of my own 163 00:05:51,510 --> 00:05:50,240 colleagues 164 00:05:53,670 --> 00:05:51,520 haven't even heard of critical race 165 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:53,680 theory what in your 166 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:55,360 personal discussions with with matt 167 00:05:58,390 --> 00:05:56,960 before all this came down 168 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:58,400 what do you recall were the things that 169 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:01,280 he was really sharing with you guys 170 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:04,160 about what he is seeing like you know 171 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:05,360 very specifically 172 00:06:10,390 --> 00:06:08,160 what is going on in the military that is 173 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:10,400 promoting this kind of thing 174 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:14,160 it's it's pushing a uh an extremist 175 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:16,800 divisive framework where you have 176 00:06:22,629 --> 00:06:19,120 oppressors and oppressed 177 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:22,639 and scholars like ibrahim kennedy who's 178 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:24,000 written a book called how to be an 179 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:25,120 anti-racist 180 00:06:28,390 --> 00:06:27,360 if you actually read his book first of 181 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:28,400 all he says 182 00:06:34,790 --> 00:06:32,400 african americans cannot be racist 183 00:06:36,469 --> 00:06:34,800 but when you follow the logic when he 184 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:36,479 talks about anti-racism 185 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:39,759 not being against racism but anti-racism 186 00:06:43,909 --> 00:06:42,960 is to be anti-white that it's it's in 187 00:06:46,710 --> 00:06:43,919 our dna 188 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:46,720 to be oppressors and then there are 189 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:48,240 multiple groups of oppressed 190 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:49,280 and this is where you get into the 191 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:51,280 political identity groups 192 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:58,870 mystery here is that marxism began as an 193 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:00,720 economic 194 00:07:04,950 --> 00:07:04,000 class struggle the bourgeoisie against 195 00:07:07,909 --> 00:07:04,960 the proletariat 196 00:07:10,070 --> 00:07:07,919 the property owners versus the workers 197 00:07:12,309 --> 00:07:10,080 and when that didn't work in america 198 00:07:13,350 --> 00:07:12,319 they had to change that from an economic 199 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:13,360 situation 200 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:16,240 to a political identity type class 201 00:07:19,110 --> 00:07:17,280 warfare 202 00:07:20,710 --> 00:07:19,120 and that's what's driving it right now 203 00:07:23,909 --> 00:07:20,720 and it's it's extremely 204 00:07:24,629 --> 00:07:23,919 divisive yeah our middle class is too 205 00:07:26,629 --> 00:07:24,639 strong 206 00:07:28,469 --> 00:07:26,639 in america for them to buy the whole 207 00:07:31,029 --> 00:07:28,479 oppressed worker thing 208 00:07:32,629 --> 00:07:31,039 exactly instead they're trading on 209 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:32,639 racism and saying that that's the 210 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:34,720 oppressed class it's the minority class 211 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:36,960 which by the way that minority group 212 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:38,800 keeps growing because i think the bigger 213 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:40,000 they can make that 214 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:42,800 class in their view the better so first 215 00:07:47,510 --> 00:07:44,400 it's black 216 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:47,520 is black and brown 217 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:49,280 i'm still not sure i know what they 218 00:07:54,070 --> 00:07:50,800 exactly mean by brown but 219 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:54,080 there's black and brown and then now 220 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:56,960 asians who are doing extremely well in 221 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:58,240 this country to the point where they're 222 00:08:01,350 --> 00:07:59,919 now being discriminated against in 223 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:01,360 universities because they're performing 224 00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:03,840 so well they're trying to include them 225 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:05,840 you know this whole asian hate 226 00:08:09,990 --> 00:08:07,919 thing that we're hearing about which is 227 00:08:13,350 --> 00:08:10,000 totally blown out of proportion 228 00:08:16,309 --> 00:08:13,360 correct right so now you've got black 229 00:08:17,749 --> 00:08:16,319 brown asian of course they throw women 230 00:08:22,150 --> 00:08:17,759 in there 231 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:22,160 you know it 232 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:25,280 everybody is being oppressed other than 233 00:08:28,629 --> 00:08:28,319 white anglo-saxon males exactly right 234 00:08:32,110 --> 00:08:28,639 and 235 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:32,120 dangerous 236 00:08:38,230 --> 00:08:35,360 anti-semitism if you read hannah aaron's 237 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:38,240 book the origins of totalitarianism 238 00:08:42,709 --> 00:08:39,760 she talks about the role that 239 00:08:46,389 --> 00:08:42,719 anti-semitism played in inflaming 240 00:08:48,949 --> 00:08:46,399 the public so they had to find an enemy 241 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:48,959 that they could uh orient their angst 242 00:08:53,910 --> 00:08:51,040 and hatred and contempt toward 243 00:08:55,829 --> 00:08:53,920 and it was the jew during that time the 244 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:55,839 early part of the 20th century 245 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:59,040 and we saw it play out in germany 246 00:09:02,550 --> 00:09:00,959 the rise of the third reich 247 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:02,560 anti-semitism played a 248 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:05,680 huge role in organizing the masses to 249 00:09:10,310 --> 00:09:08,959 to do hitler's bidding and so they had 250 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:10,320 to make it emotional 251 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:12,240 and that's what we see right now playing 252 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:14,959 out in america it's a similar dynamic 253 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:18,800 so when you analogize to to germany 254 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:20,880 who are the jews in america are you 255 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:22,560 analogizing the jews to essentially 256 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:23,279 white males 257 00:09:27,910 --> 00:09:26,480 in america today yep white male that 258 00:09:30,389 --> 00:09:27,920 that's that's the enemy that 259 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:30,399 that's who you should hate yes and you 260 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:32,160 can go right straight to kendy's book 261 00:09:37,910 --> 00:09:33,760 how to be an anti-racist 262 00:09:43,350 --> 00:09:41,110 yeah i mean what's funny is 263 00:09:44,550 --> 00:09:43,360 i'll never forget and i said this in a 264 00:09:44,949 --> 00:09:44,560 prior podcast when i was talking with 265 00:09:47,509 --> 00:09:44,959 rod 266 00:09:49,110 --> 00:09:47,519 um about my friend who who went to west 267 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:49,120 point and i'll never forget the story he 268 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:50,160 told me 269 00:09:55,670 --> 00:09:53,200 uh where he said that uh if your 270 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:55,680 captain comes to you and and says asks 271 00:09:58,710 --> 00:09:56,640 you 272 00:10:00,070 --> 00:09:58,720 plebe johnson how many blacks are in 273 00:10:04,230 --> 00:10:00,080 your platoon 274 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:04,240 he says if you the correct answer is sir 275 00:10:07,269 --> 00:10:06,800 i don't know sir that's the correct 276 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:07,279 answer 277 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:09,360 that's what he was taught at the academy 278 00:10:13,990 --> 00:10:10,800 now this is 279 00:10:15,750 --> 00:10:14,000 late 1980s being taught in the academy 280 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:15,760 to be color blind 281 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:18,959 and to not know what the racial makeup 282 00:10:22,069 --> 00:10:21,360 is of your platoon or obviously not 283 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:22,079 think about it 284 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:24,160 because it doesn't matter because we're 285 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:26,240 all americans 286 00:10:29,910 --> 00:10:28,880 we're all of one race called the human 287 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:29,920 race 288 00:10:33,110 --> 00:10:31,279 we're looking for the best and the 289 00:10:36,710 --> 00:10:33,120 brightest and the 290 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:36,720 color somebody's skin has nothing to do 291 00:10:43,670 --> 00:10:40,240 with that so that's what was going on at 292 00:10:46,230 --> 00:10:43,680 the at west point in the 1980s 293 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:46,240 so when this first came to my attention 294 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:47,519 by rod bishop 295 00:10:50,710 --> 00:10:49,360 a few months ago i was shocked because i 296 00:10:52,949 --> 00:10:50,720 i knew the left had taken over 297 00:10:55,030 --> 00:10:52,959 universities and taken over the media 298 00:10:57,030 --> 00:10:55,040 and taken over social media and then i'm 299 00:11:00,870 --> 00:10:57,040 starting to learn that has taken over 300 00:11:03,509 --> 00:11:00,880 our schools and taking over big tech 301 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:03,519 and then churches taking over the 302 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:04,399 churches 303 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:06,160 and then the last one i hear that i 304 00:11:10,470 --> 00:11:07,760 never would have guessed 305 00:11:10,949 --> 00:11:10,480 is the u.s military because i had in my 306 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:10,959 head 307 00:11:14,310 --> 00:11:13,120 the story from the late 80s but that's a 308 00:11:16,949 --> 00:11:14,320 long time ago yeah 309 00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:16,959 yeah no you're right jim in fact uh when 310 00:11:20,069 --> 00:11:19,040 i was a vice wing commander at yokota in 311 00:11:23,269 --> 00:11:20,079 japan 312 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:23,279 in 1995 i made it a point 313 00:11:28,550 --> 00:11:27,279 to sit in on introductory classes on 314 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:28,560 equal opportunity 315 00:11:32,310 --> 00:11:31,040 at the base for newcomers to really 316 00:11:35,829 --> 00:11:32,320 reinforce our 317 00:11:38,310 --> 00:11:35,839 uh emphasis on equal opportunity 318 00:11:40,949 --> 00:11:38,320 that discrimination is not tolerated in 319 00:11:43,509 --> 00:11:40,959 fact we have zero tolerance policies 320 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:43,519 and i remember in one of the sessions a 321 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:44,320 young 322 00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:47,360 lady african-american with one stripe 323 00:11:50,389 --> 00:11:48,880 introduced herself as a proud 324 00:11:52,069 --> 00:11:50,399 african-american 325 00:11:53,910 --> 00:11:52,079 and that she was aware that 326 00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:53,920 discrimination was taking place 327 00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:57,440 at yokota after the session i pulled her 328 00:12:00,230 --> 00:11:58,160 aside i 329 00:12:02,629 --> 00:12:00,240 said young lady i'm the vice wing 330 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:02,639 commander and i you got my attention 331 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:04,880 if you're aware discrimination is taking 332 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:06,880 place we need to know that so we can nip 333 00:12:09,750 --> 00:12:08,160 it in the bud 334 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:09,760 and she admitted to me that she didn't 335 00:12:13,110 --> 00:12:11,600 really know of any uh discrimination 336 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:13,120 that was taking place but she just knew 337 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:15,440 in her heart it was taking place 338 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:18,240 and to me that's what characterizes a 339 00:12:20,710 --> 00:12:20,000 lot of what we see happening in america 340 00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:20,720 today 341 00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:23,600 people have been made to believe that 342 00:12:28,230 --> 00:12:25,920 there's far more racism going on 343 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:28,240 than is true and if you if you bear with 344 00:12:33,750 --> 00:12:29,200 me 345 00:12:35,829 --> 00:12:33,760 superintendent at the air force academy 346 00:12:38,069 --> 00:12:35,839 sent a letter to the academy family 347 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:38,079 claiming systemic racism 348 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:40,880 at the academy so i filed a freedom of 349 00:12:46,949 --> 00:12:42,560 information act request 350 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:46,959 asking for data to support that claim 351 00:12:52,790 --> 00:12:50,079 and it wasn't really accusatory or 352 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:52,800 interrogatory it was in the mode of 353 00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:54,000 inquiring 354 00:12:57,750 --> 00:12:56,160 you're making this statement so i think 355 00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:57,760 it would be helpful to my friends and 356 00:13:00,710 --> 00:12:58,880 other colleagues 357 00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:00,720 that scratch their head and wondering i 358 00:13:05,030 --> 00:13:02,800 didn't realize we had systemic racism i 359 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:05,040 could give them the data to support that 360 00:13:10,870 --> 00:13:08,079 it took six months to get a response 361 00:13:11,990 --> 00:13:10,880 and it didn't answer my three questions 362 00:13:15,030 --> 00:13:12,000 very simple 363 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:15,040 number one over the past 15 years how 364 00:13:17,110 --> 00:13:15,360 many 365 00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:17,120 racial discrimination complaints were 366 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:18,880 filed per year 367 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:21,040 of those filed how many ballot were 368 00:13:26,310 --> 00:13:22,959 validated as violating 369 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:26,320 our zero tolerance policies and of those 370 00:13:30,629 --> 00:13:28,480 validated what was the nature of 371 00:13:33,990 --> 00:13:30,639 discipline or accountability 372 00:13:37,509 --> 00:13:34,000 i had to to to 373 00:13:39,430 --> 00:13:37,519 decipher the 20 pages they sent me 374 00:13:40,870 --> 00:13:39,440 which was just aggregated data over a 375 00:13:42,949 --> 00:13:40,880 14-year period 376 00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:42,959 but the best i could determine that over 377 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:44,399 that 14-year period 378 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:48,160 there were 55 discrimination complaints 379 00:13:51,189 --> 00:13:50,000 that included 10 categories of 380 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:51,199 discrimination 381 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:54,480 racial being one of them and so 382 00:13:59,750 --> 00:13:57,120 uh they didn't answer my questions and 383 00:14:01,990 --> 00:13:59,760 so i could only conclude from that 384 00:14:03,750 --> 00:14:02,000 that there is not systemic racism at the 385 00:14:04,710 --> 00:14:03,760 academy but they come up with these 386 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:04,720 claims 387 00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:06,880 and they don't provide data or evidence 388 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:08,959 to support it 389 00:14:12,629 --> 00:14:11,440 well and in fact and i'd be curious your 390 00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:12,639 thoughts 391 00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:14,880 your personal experience if anything the 392 00:14:18,670 --> 00:14:16,000 military seemed to 393 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:18,680 be a leader in um having 394 00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:19,920 anti-discriminatory 395 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:23,360 policies and in looking for 396 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:25,040 the best and the brightest irrespective 397 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:27,600 of race and in gender and so on 398 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:30,240 yeah absolutely and jim i'm going to say 399 00:14:34,870 --> 00:14:31,760 something that is going to be very 400 00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:34,880 very offensive to some people for a 401 00:14:38,470 --> 00:14:36,880 cadet at the air force academy 402 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:38,480 if they look at their current chain of 403 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:41,360 command from the secretary of defense 404 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:42,720 to the chief of staff of the united 405 00:14:46,069 --> 00:14:44,880 states air force to the superintendent 406 00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:46,079 of the academy 407 00:14:53,990 --> 00:14:51,120 the vice commandant academy 408 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:54,000 that picture does not paint uh an image 409 00:14:59,590 --> 00:14:56,320 of systemic racism 410 00:15:00,710 --> 00:14:59,600 so the actual image right now does not 411 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:00,720 support it 412 00:15:04,790 --> 00:15:02,800 does that support are you are you saying 413 00:15:05,990 --> 00:15:04,800 that all the people you just identified 414 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:06,000 are african-american 415 00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:09,519 yes and then add to that the commandant 416 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:10,079 cadets 417 00:15:13,509 --> 00:15:12,880 is a woman the dean of academics is a 418 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:13,519 woman 419 00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:15,519 the only white male in the leadership 420 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:17,040 chain right there at the academy is the 421 00:15:20,790 --> 00:15:18,880 director of athletics 422 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,800 well i'm going to say something perhaps 423 00:15:25,030 --> 00:15:22,959 more controversial than what you said 424 00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:25,040 i'm going to say there that is your 425 00:15:29,509 --> 00:15:27,120 evidence of discrimination 426 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:29,519 because based on percentages what is the 427 00:15:33,189 --> 00:15:30,560 likelihood 428 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:33,199 that an african-american would hold all 429 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:34,000 of those 430 00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:36,000 positions the bottom line is in the 431 00:15:39,269 --> 00:15:37,279 military today 432 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:39,279 they are practicing illegal 433 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:40,800 discrimination 434 00:15:46,870 --> 00:15:44,720 against men and against whites 435 00:15:48,710 --> 00:15:46,880 so i'll say that i don't know if you're 436 00:15:52,389 --> 00:15:48,720 willing to say that but i'm saying 437 00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:52,399 that the u.s military is discriminating 438 00:15:58,870 --> 00:15:55,440 as we speak against whites 439 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:02,069 i agree and and i will tell you that 440 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:04,560 there are efforts underway right now 441 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:07,120 and uh i'm with a group called stand 442 00:16:11,509 --> 00:16:08,480 together against racism 443 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:11,519 and radicalism in the services this 444 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:13,600 morning we had 80 members in our group 445 00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:16,079 after general bishop was interviewed 446 00:16:19,829 --> 00:16:17,600 earlier on a program 447 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:19,839 before noon we had 400 people that had 448 00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:22,320 signed up to support our effort 449 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:26,399 uh we at some point beyond educating the 450 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:26,880 public 451 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:30,320 about the the threat of ideology 452 00:16:35,110 --> 00:16:33,920 uh we're exploring ways of addressing 453 00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:35,120 those types of 454 00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:39,279 injustices and into seek remedies 455 00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:41,199 uh we're going to post links and so on 456 00:16:45,749 --> 00:16:44,160 but just to tell people 457 00:16:47,829 --> 00:16:45,759 what is the best way for this to sign up 458 00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:47,839 to support stars 459 00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:50,160 it's brand new in fact we opened it up 460 00:16:58,829 --> 00:16:50,880 this weekend 461 00:17:05,510 --> 00:17:01,590 www.stars.us 462 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:05,520 so let's go back to low meyer's um 463 00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:08,799 story so there was no 464 00:17:12,470 --> 00:17:11,679 um investigation at least as of yet as 465 00:17:14,710 --> 00:17:12,480 far as we know 466 00:17:15,510 --> 00:17:14,720 right and all we know is what they've 467 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:15,520 said 468 00:17:21,350 --> 00:17:18,640 which is that um he's relieved of duty 469 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:21,360 due to loss of trust and confidence in 470 00:17:25,350 --> 00:17:23,679 his ability to lead 471 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:25,360 and that investigation has been 472 00:17:27,909 --> 00:17:27,120 initiated into whether his comments on 473 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:27,919 the podcast 474 00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:29,760 constituted prohibited partisan 475 00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:33,120 political activity correct 476 00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:36,320 and what what's ironic about it is he's 477 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:36,799 being 478 00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:40,960 hammered for uh 479 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:44,799 being critical of a political ideology 480 00:17:47,830 --> 00:17:46,240 that's being pushed in the department of 481 00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:47,840 defense 482 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:49,440 which as we said sorry to interrupt just 483 00:17:54,310 --> 00:17:51,440 to remind people just i just 484 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,320 hit my microphone um just a few months 485 00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:56,240 ago 486 00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:58,080 the commander-in-chief had made it very 487 00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:59,520 clear that 488 00:18:03,669 --> 00:18:01,440 this is prohibited in the military what 489 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,679 he's speaking out about is exactly what 490 00:18:08,470 --> 00:18:04,960 our prior commander-in-chief 491 00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:08,480 spoke out about correct and and 492 00:18:11,669 --> 00:18:09,840 now he loses his job but three months 493 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:11,679 later he loses his job over it 494 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:14,480 right but i will tell you that matt 495 00:18:18,630 --> 00:18:16,320 filed an ig complaint 496 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:18,640 uh and it was dismissed at the uh space 497 00:18:22,310 --> 00:18:20,000 command level 498 00:18:23,830 --> 00:18:22,320 but uh his complaint was after the 499 00:18:24,870 --> 00:18:23,840 executive order came out from the 500 00:18:27,909 --> 00:18:24,880 president 501 00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:27,919 the base commander was still pushing 502 00:18:32,230 --> 00:18:29,600 critical race theory 503 00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:32,240 training at the base he was assigned to 504 00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:34,480 in in 505 00:18:39,669 --> 00:18:37,760 defiance of the executive order and i 506 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:39,679 understand that same base commander 507 00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:42,960 came out on the one star list 508 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:45,600 and that's someone different than the 509 00:18:49,909 --> 00:18:46,880 then who um 510 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:49,919 terminated him which is correct 511 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:51,679 the in the individual that terminated 512 00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:53,520 him was a colonel 513 00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:56,320 and after the ig came back and dismissed 514 00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:58,320 his ig complaint he came out on the one 515 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,559 star list 516 00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:02,720 and what's going to happen to to lo so 517 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:05,039 he's not dismissed from the military 518 00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:07,360 where does where is he now and what 519 00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:08,960 happens next for him 520 00:19:12,150 --> 00:19:10,559 they just reassign him to another 521 00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:12,160 position on the base or 522 00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:13,280 [Music] 523 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:18,230 it's equivalent because uh when you're 524 00:19:21,110 --> 00:19:20,160 relieved of command for cause it has to 525 00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:21,120 be 526 00:19:24,549 --> 00:19:23,039 entered into your performance report 527 00:19:27,909 --> 00:19:24,559 which is a kiss of death 528 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:27,919 it basically means you were fired uh 529 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:31,840 but more than that it could uh relate to 530 00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:34,400 legal implications that could end up in 531 00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:36,640 a court martial 532 00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:39,679 and i will point out that matt's courage 533 00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:41,679 that he is displayed and he knew the 534 00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:43,679 risks going into this 535 00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:45,840 i would put on the same level as billy 536 00:19:50,630 --> 00:19:46,960 mitchell 537 00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:50,640 when he defied an order 538 00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:52,160 in order to demonstrate the the 539 00:19:55,430 --> 00:19:53,760 potential of air power 540 00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:55,440 and he faced a court martial and he was 541 00:20:02,310 --> 00:19:57,280 found guilty for disobeying an 542 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:02,320 order but we have air power today 543 00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:05,200 and and arguably air power is what was 544 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:07,840 decisive in the second world war against 545 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:11,440 marxism yeah well i think it's great 546 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:13,760 that he obviously he's calling attention 547 00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:17,440 to it and um is going to be on hannity 548 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:21,280 tonight right correct yeah um 549 00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:24,320 so tell us about this uh stand down 550 00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:27,919 day i think that he talks about this and 551 00:20:33,190 --> 00:20:31,120 this was um put in place by the 552 00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:33,200 the current um secretary of defense 553 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,720 secretary of defense 554 00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,240 what what was the whole basis behind 555 00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:37,919 stand down day and and 556 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:39,840 did it happen and what happened on stand 557 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,000 down day that's a great question 558 00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:43,760 that stemmed from the sixth january 559 00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:45,600 event at the capitol 560 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:48,799 and the idea was to stand down 561 00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:50,960 troops across the the department of 562 00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:53,039 defense for one day 563 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:54,400 and to talk about the dangers of 564 00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,280 extremism the document that came out 565 00:21:00,549 --> 00:20:59,360 gave examples of extremism and they were 566 00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:00,559 all right of center 567 00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:03,200 extremism never talked about black lives 568 00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:05,280 matter or antifa 569 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:07,120 and the groups that were burning and 570 00:21:11,669 --> 00:21:08,400 looting cities 571 00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:11,679 over this past summer we filed another 572 00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:14,000 foia complaint by the way 573 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:17,120 and i got pushed back this week uh 574 00:21:24,470 --> 00:21:20,720 asking me what is the public interest in 575 00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,480 uh wanting to know what materials and uh 576 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,640 slides and presentations were conducted 577 00:21:31,430 --> 00:21:28,720 on extremist down day 578 00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:31,440 and they're asking me to demonstrate 579 00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:31,760 that 580 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:34,559 my request uh is in the public interest 581 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,280 wow 582 00:21:38,950 --> 00:21:37,200 i mean you're just trying to find out 583 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:38,960 you heard about stand down day 584 00:21:43,190 --> 00:21:41,520 and you're wondering okay what happened 585 00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:43,200 on stand down day and what materials 586 00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,240 were used 587 00:21:48,149 --> 00:21:46,720 et cetera and they're they're saying 588 00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:48,159 what is the public interest in knowing 589 00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:48,799 this 590 00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:50,799 yep what's being taught to our military 591 00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:52,880 and if i don't give them a satisfactory 592 00:21:57,830 --> 00:21:55,039 response they will close my case on 593 00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:57,840 26 may now am i correct though that it 594 00:22:03,909 --> 00:21:58,320 was 595 00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:03,919 used throughout all of the military for 596 00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:05,679 stand down day it was was it almost left 597 00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:06,799 up to kind of the local 598 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:08,640 level as to what to do on that day they 599 00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:11,440 they guidance was provided but 600 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:14,159 flexibility was allowed so have you seen 601 00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:15,600 the guidance 602 00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:19,600 and again it was in that guidance they 603 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:22,080 gave four examples of extremist activity 604 00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:22,960 and they were all 605 00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:25,840 white supremacist right of center 606 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:26,799 examples 607 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,799 and when we say stand down day 608 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:32,799 what does that really mean did they 609 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:34,960 really do something for an entire day 610 00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,200 where they had some program related to 611 00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:41,840 extremism i think it varied from base to 612 00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:43,520 base 613 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:46,480 it could have been an hour-long seminar 614 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:47,200 with uh 615 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:48,960 you know an hour of discussion i don't 616 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:50,720 think it they 617 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,280 put people through an eight-hour ordeal 618 00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:54,720 so it probably rains anywhere from an 619 00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:55,280 hour to 620 00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:58,400 four hours be my guess 621 00:23:01,669 --> 00:23:01,280 my um brother-in-law is in the navy and 622 00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:01,679 i just 623 00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:04,960 texted him happy stand down day 624 00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:07,120 whatever the hell that is and he just 625 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:09,039 kind of sent a smiley face back i i 626 00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:11,120 haven't asked him what what he 627 00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:12,400 experienced i mean i presume you've 628 00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,799 heard some stories as to 629 00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,400 what happened on stand down day at 630 00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:18,640 various locations well you know i 631 00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:21,760 i asked some cadets here locally and 632 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:25,679 they said that they've been advised that 633 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:29,760 this is related to operational security 634 00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,630 coached not to go public with wow 635 00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:38,480 so so they clammed up they weren't 636 00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:39,760 willing to tell you what they did on 637 00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:40,559 stand down day 638 00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:43,919 right yeah i don't 639 00:23:47,350 --> 00:23:46,480 and that that's anecdotal i mean that's 640 00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,360 just uh 641 00:23:52,390 --> 00:23:49,279 you know a handful of cadets i talked to 642 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:52,400 i i can't say for a fact that that was 643 00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:55,760 a cadet wing wide 644 00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:58,960 effort so it definitely seems as if the 645 00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,480 military has accepted 646 00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,480 the idea that there has been systemic 647 00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,320 racism in the military 648 00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:07,360 and that in order to overcome 649 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,159 these decades of systemic racism we need 650 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:12,080 diversity inclusion and equity 651 00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:16,000 we need affirmative action um i mean 652 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:18,480 it really isn't that how it manifests 653 00:24:22,230 --> 00:24:19,440 itself the most 654 00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:22,240 is in them practicing affirmative action 655 00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:24,400 if we were to tie 656 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:27,440 this um acceptance 657 00:24:30,549 --> 00:24:30,000 of uh systemic racism by the military 658 00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:30,559 and then 659 00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:32,320 what policies are coming out of 660 00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:33,600 accepting this 661 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:38,640 it's basically hiring and promoting 662 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:41,840 people in these categories 663 00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:46,320 uh jim i'm going to advance a theory 664 00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:48,559 and i mean i have a phd and i do 665 00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:49,360 research 666 00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:52,400 and i'm very very cautious about 667 00:25:03,350 --> 00:24:59,110 theories along these lines but 668 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:03,360 when the former president before 669 00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,640 president trump was elected uh a lot of 670 00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:08,159 people were pretty euphoric 671 00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:10,799 as evidence that we have really come a 672 00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:11,679 long way 673 00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,559 in making america less and less racist 674 00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:16,000 as a nation 675 00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:19,120 a wall street journal study said going 676 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,000 into that election 677 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:22,480 79 percent of people felt race relations 678 00:25:28,230 --> 00:25:24,799 were healthy 679 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,240 but some things happened in between 680 00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:30,320 we had the trayvon martin case down in 681 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,880 florida and of course as you remember 682 00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:34,320 zimmerman was acquitted that they 683 00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:36,559 couldn't find that that he had committed 684 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,440 a crime 685 00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,360 well that became the genesis for the 686 00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,760 black lives matter organization 687 00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:44,240 and the term black lives matter but it 688 00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,440 didn't have any traction 689 00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,679 until the michael brown case in ferguson 690 00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:49,279 missouri 691 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:52,400 and if you look at a lot of the the 692 00:25:57,430 --> 00:25:53,039 little 693 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:00,870 assertions made at the highest levels uh 694 00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:04,240 that 79 in a matter of four years 695 00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:07,440 dropped down to almost 50 percent and 696 00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:10,240 in some areas below 50 so the the 697 00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,000 sentiment in the public 698 00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:14,159 was changed from feeling good about 699 00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:15,919 where we are in race relations 700 00:26:19,750 --> 00:26:17,919 to not being so good and as you know 701 00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:19,760 both those cases 702 00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:22,240 uh they were distorted in the public 703 00:26:26,070 --> 00:26:24,080 media 704 00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:26,080 the black lives matter organization said 705 00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:27,279 that what happened 706 00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:30,480 to trayvon martin was an injustice that 707 00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:31,679 zimmerman should have been 708 00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:34,400 ex you know convicted sent to prison 709 00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:35,600 that became their 710 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:38,000 their their crusade and then michael 711 00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:39,360 brown 712 00:26:44,950 --> 00:26:43,120 gave him even more traction and so 713 00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:44,960 that's where the term black lives matter 714 00:26:48,630 --> 00:26:46,799 began and the founders of that 715 00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:48,640 organization are marxist 716 00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:51,840 they admit it in the early days of their 717 00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:52,799 website 718 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,400 they talked about their goals being to 719 00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:56,640 destroy the nuclear family 720 00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,240 uh and to push values and norms that 721 00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:02,240 were contrary to our judeo-christian 722 00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:03,360 traditions 723 00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,559 so it was it was a political movement 724 00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:08,880 and when the football coaches at the 725 00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:10,799 academy came up with their video 726 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,400 back in 7 july 2020 727 00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:17,279 saying black lives matter seven times in 728 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,880 a three minute video 729 00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,720 that's when people like general bishop 730 00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:22,080 and i 731 00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:25,120 uh got involved you know what's going on 732 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,000 here 733 00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:29,440 and it's it was i'll tell you it 734 00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,080 it snuck up on us and if you know we're 735 00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:34,159 convinced if we don't do 736 00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:37,520 enough now to stem that movement 737 00:27:42,149 --> 00:27:40,480 america is lost i mean because they've 738 00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:42,159 already infiltrated 739 00:27:49,350 --> 00:27:45,760 our military institution 740 00:27:52,149 --> 00:27:49,360 yeah the goal is ultimately 741 00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,159 to um tear down the existing system and 742 00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:53,919 replace it with another system and 743 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,000 and in order to do that you need to 744 00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,000 discredit the existing system 745 00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:00,320 with the idea that the whole system is 746 00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:01,600 founded on 747 00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:06,640 racism and and even though 748 00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:08,480 all the laws have been changed at this 749 00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,919 point and 750 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,520 there's all kinds of anti-discrimination 751 00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:13,440 laws and so on so instead they realized 752 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,480 today on well it's systemic which is an 753 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:18,240 amorphous claim as you point out they're 754 00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:19,360 not able to point to 755 00:28:22,710 --> 00:28:21,279 systemic but the whole idea being to 756 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:22,720 discredit 757 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:25,360 the founding of the united states and 758 00:28:28,950 --> 00:28:26,480 our existing system 759 00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:28,960 in order to replace it with something 760 00:28:31,510 --> 00:28:30,159 and as you point out 761 00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:31,520 black lives matter has already made it 762 00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:33,760 clear we we know that they're 763 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,279 uh marxists because they they told us so 764 00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,200 and on their website they made it very 765 00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:41,200 clear that they want to disrupt the 766 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:43,919 nuclear family um we see a lot of 767 00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:46,000 movement going on in that regard and 768 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:49,840 in the military um you know i guess the 769 00:28:52,950 --> 00:28:51,440 goal would be to 770 00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:52,960 weaken the u.s military if you want to 771 00:28:56,070 --> 00:28:55,200 weaken all elements of u.s society 772 00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:56,080 including 773 00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:58,960 the military well and there's there's 774 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:00,080 there's 775 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:02,880 two sources of wisdom that shine a light 776 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:03,919 on this 777 00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:06,720 one dates back a couple of millennia to 778 00:29:10,310 --> 00:29:07,679 sun tzu 779 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,320 and his book the art of war and he 780 00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:12,399 devotes a chapter to what he calls 781 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:16,159 the sheathed sword a way to defeat the 782 00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:18,000 enemy without even raising a sword 783 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:19,600 against them 784 00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:23,760 uh years later when carl von klonzewicz 785 00:29:28,389 --> 00:29:26,799 wrote his seminal book on war it's not 786 00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:28,399 an easy book to read but 787 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:30,080 uh officers that go through the war 788 00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:31,840 colleges study it 789 00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:35,279 he talked about two factors uh that were 790 00:29:39,190 --> 00:29:36,559 critical the physical 791 00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:39,200 and the moral the physical is our 792 00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:41,360 technology our tanks our airplanes that 793 00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:42,320 sort of thing 794 00:29:46,389 --> 00:29:45,520 the moral is the spirit what's in the 795 00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:46,399 heart 796 00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:49,840 the unit the the unity the 797 00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,880 camaraderie the esprit de corps and he 798 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:54,000 said the moral is 799 00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:56,480 three times more powerful than the 800 00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:57,279 physical 801 00:30:01,029 --> 00:29:58,799 so it doesn't matter how well equipped 802 00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,039 you are you could have superior 803 00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:03,360 assets and that sort of thing but if if 804 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:04,159 you don't have 805 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:08,399 the uh the moral uh character it 806 00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:11,360 it could be it's totally disruptive 807 00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:12,720 that's how you defeat the enemy 808 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:16,080 you defeat them morally well and and 809 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:18,080 i think that there's two ways that this 810 00:30:23,750 --> 00:30:20,080 is um 811 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,760 demoralizing to the military one is 812 00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:25,440 this great country that you thought that 813 00:30:30,149 --> 00:30:27,679 you were defending and so proud of and 814 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,159 uh and wanted to defend like the guys 815 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:32,320 who joined after 9 11. 816 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:33,760 not to mention lots of other prior 817 00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:36,480 generations um 818 00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:39,840 if you're fighting for a racist country 819 00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:40,960 or a 820 00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:43,760 bad country etc then that's demoralizing 821 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:46,240 you're not as excited to go fight for it 822 00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:48,960 and also personally demoralizing is if 823 00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:49,679 you see 824 00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:52,799 that the way to to climb up the ranks in 825 00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:54,559 the military is not 826 00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,880 based on your personal achievement and 827 00:31:01,110 --> 00:30:58,960 how hard you work and how exceptional 828 00:31:02,630 --> 00:31:01,120 you are that it's instead based on other 829 00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:02,640 factors like the color of your skin 830 00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:05,679 or your gender that's very demoralizing 831 00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,600 exactly yeah it's and divisive 832 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:11,760 so you know general bishop likes to tell 833 00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:13,120 the story that you know when he flew 834 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:14,559 into combat 835 00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:16,960 uh he never paid attention whether his 836 00:31:20,070 --> 00:31:18,720 co-pilot or the flight engineer or the 837 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:20,080 load master 838 00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:24,240 uh we're white or black it's uh 839 00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:26,000 you know they're part of the team they 840 00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:27,760 train together 841 00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:30,880 um yeah and you know what what i've 842 00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,799 been saying of late is with this black 843 00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,720 lives matter we didn't then catch up to 844 00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:36,159 the george floyd situation 845 00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,200 but you know it really obviously rose to 846 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:40,880 a pinnacle with the george floyd 847 00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:44,880 situation and all of this focus on race 848 00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,559 race race race putting in your head now 849 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:50,320 if i'm walking down the street and a 850 00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:51,600 black person's coming to me you know 851 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,799 what i think 852 00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,960 i think black person i never see black 853 00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:55,919 person before 854 00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:58,640 i see a person i don't pay attention to 855 00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:59,039 to 856 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,279 somebody's race but these people are 857 00:32:05,029 --> 00:32:02,960 just obsessed 858 00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:05,039 with race and you know it goes without 859 00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,320 saying that they're they're the real 860 00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,640 racists that are so obsessed with with 861 00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:11,039 the color of skin as opposed to content 862 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,919 of character 863 00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:14,559 but the point of my little anecdote is 864 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:16,559 is that it's having obviously the exact 865 00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:19,760 opposite effect of you know bringing 866 00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,559 people together 867 00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:23,039 it's dividing but that is their goal 868 00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,200 their goal is to divide 869 00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,200 they want to put this wedge between 870 00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:28,399 white black people i mean white and 871 00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:30,880 black people get along 872 00:32:34,870 --> 00:32:33,519 lovingly you know we all go to games 873 00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:34,880 together we'll do all kinds of things 874 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:40,630 races are as mixed today as ever before 875 00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:41,200 i mean 876 00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:44,559 we could be in a post-racial world 877 00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:46,240 thanks to obama 878 00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:48,240 thanks to all the mixed race that's out 879 00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:49,440 there now 880 00:32:54,830 --> 00:32:53,120 but for this continuing to harp on this 881 00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:54,840 to what end it's not doing the black 882 00:32:59,509 --> 00:32:56,399 community any 883 00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:59,519 any good you know i mean police 884 00:33:04,230 --> 00:33:00,880 brutality 885 00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:04,240 is probably 20th on the list 886 00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:07,679 of issues facing the black community but 887 00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:10,240 they focus on that because it's divisive 888 00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:10,960 well and 889 00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:14,399 what disappoints me is when you look at 890 00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:18,159 our inner cities that's where all the 891 00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:21,919 the homicides are taking place and 892 00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:24,320 it's been like that for decades you know 893 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:25,600 and so 894 00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:28,320 the same people that are pushing all 895 00:33:31,909 --> 00:33:28,880 this 896 00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:31,919 uh ideology 897 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:33,760 don't want to even look at the inner 898 00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:34,960 cities and 899 00:33:38,789 --> 00:33:37,519 what's happening there i mean that's 900 00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:38,799 that's the injustice 901 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:42,880 yeah in my opinion so how do we take 902 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:47,600 this low-mire situation and turn it into 903 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:50,080 um some type of movement that actually 904 00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:51,279 turns things 905 00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:55,360 the other way educating 906 00:34:00,549 --> 00:33:58,559 programs like your your show here uh 907 00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:00,559 getting the word out that 908 00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:04,640 you know this critical race theory is 909 00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:08,399 is dangerous and so educating 910 00:34:13,990 --> 00:34:11,520 the public uh but also 911 00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:14,000 uh taking on people that are doing 912 00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:14,960 things that are 913 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:18,800 deceptive or illegal 914 00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:21,440 and to seek justice you know truth and 915 00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:22,159 justice 916 00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:25,280 to me are the two watch words here so 917 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:27,040 uh like working with the academy they 918 00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:28,879 have a diversity and inclusion reading 919 00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:29,679 room 920 00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:31,520 and so we looked at the titles of the 921 00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:34,399 materials there and it's all very 922 00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,599 uh um anti-white 923 00:34:41,109 --> 00:34:39,599 that you know the blacks are still 924 00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:41,119 oppressed and whatever 925 00:34:44,629 --> 00:34:43,200 so we offered a whole list of books to 926 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,639 complement what they have 927 00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,040 in the library you know we don't want to 928 00:34:52,069 --> 00:34:49,280 censor candy and 929 00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:52,079 and d'angelo and her white fragility uh 930 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:53,760 stuff that she's putting out there 931 00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:55,679 but we think people ought to be exposed 932 00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:57,920 to alternative viewpoints on this 933 00:35:02,069 --> 00:34:59,920 and let them weigh the the merits of the 934 00:35:05,430 --> 00:35:02,079 arguments and the evidence 935 00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:05,440 uh and how did that go well 936 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:08,560 it the superintendent was receptive 937 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:10,720 uh general bishop's been very good uh 938 00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,720 working with the superintendent 939 00:35:16,390 --> 00:35:14,720 realizing that that this is really not 940 00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:16,400 his issue uh 941 00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:19,359 or many of the the leaders in the 942 00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:20,880 military that it's really more a 943 00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:23,040 political issue that's being imposed 944 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:24,240 upon 945 00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:27,920 the military and so that's where he's 946 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:31,200 kind of keeping us cautious in terms of 947 00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:32,640 being very careful about 948 00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:35,200 how we approach our concerns about these 949 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:36,320 issues 950 00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,920 uh but for instance the reading room 951 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:39,680 thing you you guys recommended some 952 00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:40,240 additional 953 00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:41,839 readings to be put in the reading room 954 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:43,839 and where they put in the reading room 955 00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:44,720 not yet 956 00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:47,440 so and and what about let's go back to 957 00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:48,480 the video because my 958 00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:49,760 listeners probably want an update on 959 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:51,040 that since we've covered that in the 960 00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:51,760 past 961 00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,960 so um you guys worked very hard with the 962 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:56,000 superintendent 963 00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,560 and he you guys reached an agreement 964 00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,400 where he was going to take down 965 00:36:05,030 --> 00:36:03,200 the video by the football team that 966 00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:05,040 showed support for black lives matter 967 00:36:08,790 --> 00:36:06,960 and said a lot of the black lives matter 968 00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:08,800 rhetoric and so on 969 00:36:12,310 --> 00:36:10,000 was going to take that down and replace 970 00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:12,320 it with a new video so where does that 971 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,760 stand 972 00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:16,000 a new video is out and they did take 973 00:36:21,270 --> 00:36:18,560 down the old video when that happened 974 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:21,280 the new video is more positive it's uh 975 00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,480 about dignity and respect 976 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:26,720 which was a huge improvement over the 977 00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:28,160 the previous one 978 00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:32,079 but what i point out to our inner circle 979 00:36:37,670 --> 00:36:35,440 uh it still uses what's called esopian 980 00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:37,680 language in other words it looks 981 00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:39,599 positive and 982 00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:42,720 good on the surface but the predicate 983 00:36:47,829 --> 00:36:43,200 for it 984 00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:47,839 is still a concern for instance 985 00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,960 dignity and respect is not the whole 986 00:36:53,990 --> 00:36:52,160 purpose for the academy 987 00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:54,000 the purpose of the academy is to produce 988 00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:56,000 warriors to fight and win our nation's 989 00:36:59,829 --> 00:36:56,960 wars 990 00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,839 yeah we learn team teamwork and team 991 00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,440 building that sort of thing 992 00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:03,599 through dignity and respect but guess 993 00:37:08,470 --> 00:37:06,079 what respect is earned 994 00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:08,480 you know it's not an expectation uh and 995 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:09,440 so i mean there's 996 00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,480 there are a lot of uh 997 00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,280 unspoken messages that underwrite the 998 00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:17,359 the need for such a video 999 00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:20,640 and so i i i hate to say that because 1000 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:23,440 comparatively it's a vast improvement 1001 00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,000 over the 1002 00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:26,400 the previous one but how can people see 1003 00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:33,430 yeah that's a good question uh 1004 00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:36,560 the you could google it it's on youtube 1005 00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:39,760 uh yeah us air force 1006 00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:43,520 uh usafa dignity and respect 1007 00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:45,200 and those those are the buzzwords that 1008 00:37:49,990 --> 00:37:47,359 they were using as dignity and respect 1009 00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:50,000 right what about diversity inclusion and 1010 00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:50,880 equity 1011 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:52,720 not yet but i'll tell you that really 1012 00:37:59,349 --> 00:37:55,440 began back in 2011 1013 00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:59,359 based on an executive order uh placing 1014 00:38:03,270 --> 00:38:01,680 diversity and inclusion officers across 1015 00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:03,280 the federal government 1016 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,119 and then it became codified in the 1017 00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:07,599 national defense authorization act 1018 00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:10,720 and so you know we were taking a look at 1019 00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:11,440 some of the stuff 1020 00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:20,150 the yeah these diversity 1021 00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,960 equity and inclusion officers now across 1022 00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:24,400 the federal agency to include 1023 00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:27,520 the military departments and if if you 1024 00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:28,320 recall 1025 00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,680 the secretary of defense has just 1026 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,480 recently hired an individual 1027 00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,400 to be the chief diversity and inclusion 1028 00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:36,960 officer and his background is contra 1029 00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:39,680 controversial uh he's got tweets out 1030 00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:41,359 there that uh 1031 00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,440 that indicate that he really comes 1032 00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:45,359 across as an extremist 1033 00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,040 and he's going to be in charge of this 1034 00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:49,440 program our concern is it's really more 1035 00:38:55,109 --> 00:38:51,760 of an enforcement mechanism 1036 00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:55,119 to comply with an ideology that if you 1037 00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,880 speak out against it like lieutenant 1038 00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:58,480 colonel lowe meyer 1039 00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,680 we're going to punish you so 1040 00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,359 so a lot of these dynamics are at play 1041 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:04,880 right now 1042 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:09,119 so um and that's what's leading to 1043 00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:10,480 things like affirmative action being 1044 00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,320 practiced in the military 1045 00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:14,640 are there any court cases that you're 1046 00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:16,960 aware of i still have this 1047 00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:18,960 uh naive view i guess that the 1048 00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:20,640 constitution and the equal protection 1049 00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:21,440 clause 1050 00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:23,119 prohibits the federal government from 1051 00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:24,880 discriminating against people based on 1052 00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:25,839 their race 1053 00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,599 even though it happens all the time 1054 00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,440 but i don't think that it's 1055 00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:33,119 constitutional 1056 00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:34,560 and i'm just wondering you happen to 1057 00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:37,200 know are there is anybody suing over 1058 00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:39,119 this 1059 00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:42,720 not yet but 1060 00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:45,920 um privy to some discussions where i uh 1061 00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:46,720 these 1062 00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:49,920 that question is being calculated 1063 00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,920 i think that's really what's what's 1064 00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,280 needed um 1065 00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:55,119 you know somebody passed over for a 1066 00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:57,200 promotion especially in the military 1067 00:40:00,310 --> 00:39:58,160 where 1068 00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,320 they keep pretty good record of your 1069 00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:02,400 obviously your seniority and your rank 1070 00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:03,760 and your accomplishments 1071 00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:06,079 and this that and the other so it's it's 1072 00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:07,920 fairly objective when you 1073 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:11,040 measure two people for a promotion and 1074 00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:11,920 be able to see that 1075 00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:15,520 somebody clearly was not as qualified 1076 00:40:21,030 --> 00:40:19,599 for a promotion well jim i i would defer 1077 00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:21,040 i mean that's a great question that you 1078 00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:22,640 asked i would defer to our 1079 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:25,119 vice president for legal affairs mike 1080 00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:26,720 rose 1081 00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,400 mike is a 69 graduate from the air force 1082 00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,920 academy 1083 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:33,920 mike was responsible for removing the 1084 00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:36,640 silence tradition at west point 1085 00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:38,000 are you familiar with the silence 1086 00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:40,319 tradition yes yes and we've talked about 1087 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:40,880 it on this 1088 00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:45,760 uh show i think but um yeah it was 1089 00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,119 wasn't it considered somewhat uh racist 1090 00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,119 at the time or racial 1091 00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,760 totally racial in fact benjamin o davis 1092 00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,680 who commanded the tuskegee airmen during 1093 00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,200 the second world war 1094 00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:59,119 spent his entire four years at west 1095 00:41:03,589 --> 00:41:01,040 point silenced 1096 00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:03,599 sat at a table by himself in the dining 1097 00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,560 hall 1098 00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,720 was not allowed to have a roommate and 1099 00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:07,599 was pretty much 1100 00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:10,160 uh ostracized the whole four years but 1101 00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:11,839 mike rose was responsible for getting 1102 00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:12,160 that 1103 00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:16,560 think it's it's 1104 00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,680 we should point out obviously that there 1105 00:41:23,270 --> 00:41:21,359 has been past discrimination 1106 00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:23,280 in in the military right i mean there's 1107 00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:26,000 uh you know you didn't have integrated 1108 00:41:32,710 --> 00:41:29,280 uh platoons until about what year 1109 00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:32,720 1947 truly directed that we would 1110 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:33,280 integrate 1111 00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:37,760 our uh forces okay 1947. so 1112 00:41:43,430 --> 00:41:41,359 um that's terrible and and there was 1113 00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,440 tons of similar type laws in america you 1114 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:45,440 know through 1947 1115 00:41:49,309 --> 00:41:47,440 but i think we should also recognize 1116 00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:49,319 that that is now 1117 00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:52,240 74 uh years ago 1118 00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:55,680 correct 74 years ago that the military 1119 00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:56,079 was 1120 00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:59,520 women 1121 00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:02,880 at west point when did that happen 1122 00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,920 around 1976 1123 00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:07,280 and that happened with all the service 1124 00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:09,760 academies so my graduating class 1125 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,960 at the academy was all male 1 so you 1126 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,480 know if you're 1127 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,720 if you're a believer that you know 1128 00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:18,640 discrimination that happened 1129 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,760 back in the 40s against blacks is still 1130 00:42:26,069 --> 00:42:23,200 having its effect today 1131 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:26,079 and and we need uh and though and the 1132 00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:27,520 way to correct it 1133 00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:30,960 is discriminating now against whites 1134 00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,560 in favor of blacks because 80 years ago 1135 00:42:37,829 --> 00:42:36,400 it was done the opposite way 1136 00:42:40,150 --> 00:42:37,839 right if you think that's the right 1137 00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:40,160 solution then you know god bless you i 1138 00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:40,720 mean 1139 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:42,160 i think it's been proven again again 1140 00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:44,000 that that's not the right 1141 00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,760 solution to to discriminate against 1142 00:42:48,790 --> 00:42:47,440 today's generation based on 1143 00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:48,800 discrimination that happened 1144 00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,520 five generations ago well in fact george 1145 00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:53,359 orwell wrote a book 1146 00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:58,160 with that theme called animal farm i 1147 00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,480 mean 1148 00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:00,960 in the end you know they ended up with 1149 00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,839 one commandment 1150 00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,000 all animals are created equal some are 1151 00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:06,160 more equal than others 1152 00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:09,760 yeah i mean it's a fascinating uh satire 1153 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:13,040 on what was going on in marxist 1154 00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:15,760 parts of the world and uh and we're 1155 00:43:19,270 --> 00:43:16,400 seeing it 1156 00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:19,280 play out in america on in softer tones 1157 00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:20,000 but 1158 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:23,359 it's still it's playing out yeah 1159 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:26,240 um yeah if affirmative action worked we 1160 00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,800 would have 1161 00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,640 seen its benefits by now because it 1162 00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:30,400 certainly has been practiced in plenty 1163 00:43:34,790 --> 00:43:31,359 of places 1164 00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:34,800 uh including schools and you know just 1165 00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,200 trying to change things at the end you 1166 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,560 need to go to the root 1167 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:40,640 problem i mean it it's it's does such a 1168 00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:41,680 disservice to the 1169 00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:44,319 to the individual you simply say that 1170 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,800 well 1171 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:46,480 as long as we wind up with the same 1172 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,920 percentage 1173 00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,599 of let's say blacks whatever group you 1174 00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:51,760 get the same percentage 1175 00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:54,880 at the end then who cares if they're not 1176 00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:56,800 getting the proper preparation 1177 00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,200 they're not getting proper schooling the 1178 00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:01,760 home situation and family situation is 1179 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:02,640 poor 1180 00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:06,240 uh the um mental um 1181 00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,359 health is is poor um 1182 00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,599 they're the gang situations that are all 1183 00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,440 the problems 1184 00:44:18,150 --> 00:44:16,319 in in being raised in these communities 1185 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:18,160 that that makes it challenging 1186 00:44:21,430 --> 00:44:19,760 oh as long as we just change the numbers 1187 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,440 at the end then who cares that's what 1188 00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:22,800 affirmative action 1189 00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:25,839 does it it allows you to sorry i'll say 1190 00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:26,720 one other 1191 00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:28,480 comment about because when california 1192 00:44:32,790 --> 00:44:30,640 got rid of affirmative action 1193 00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,800 ucla law school and there's tons of 1194 00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:34,079 examples of this this is just the one i 1195 00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:35,440 happen to remember and i'll ballpark it 1196 00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:36,319 for you but 1197 00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,280 of the 350 students that would be in the 1198 00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:41,359 entering class 1199 00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:44,720 at ucla law school it'd be approximately 1200 00:44:49,990 --> 00:44:47,920 80 blacks this is 1201 00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,000 with affirmative action when they when 1202 00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:52,240 it was outlawed 15 years ago 1203 00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:55,599 the number was went down to two now 1204 00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,200 i don't remember the exact numbers but 1205 00:45:02,790 --> 00:44:59,359 my ballparks are close enough 1206 00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:02,800 it was staggering what the number went 1207 00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:03,599 down to 1208 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,640 so you were masking 1209 00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:08,560 real legitimate important issues that 1210 00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,319 need to be dealt with 1211 00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,839 by simply making sure that the numbers 1212 00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:13,440 at the end work out 1213 00:45:17,190 --> 00:45:15,680 the same when you pull away the mask of 1214 00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:17,200 affirmative action you see 1215 00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:20,240 what is going on that only two african 1216 00:45:24,710 --> 00:45:21,280 americans 1217 00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,720 are qualifying for ucla law school 1218 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:26,880 then your eyes are wide open that we've 1219 00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:28,160 got a real problem in the black 1220 00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:29,599 community and we need to figure out what 1221 00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:30,160 that is 1222 00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:33,920 and do something about it exactly 1223 00:45:38,710 --> 00:45:37,040 well you probably had statistics 1224 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:38,720 and you are familiar with the term 1225 00:45:47,829 --> 00:45:45,670 so you've got all kinds of data and 1226 00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:47,839 the the mean the average of it now 1227 00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,240 you've got data above it data below it 1228 00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,240 regressing to the mean talks about 1229 00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,319 pulling these things to the mean 1230 00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,960 so now everybody is on the mean but what 1231 00:45:59,430 --> 00:45:58,720 happens in real life is that mean gets 1232 00:46:06,630 --> 00:45:59,440 lower 1233 00:46:09,910 --> 00:46:06,640 has written about this he's got 1234 00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:09,920 a book that came out 1993 1235 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:13,040 called inside american education 1236 00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:16,240 the decline the deception the dogmas it 1237 00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:16,720 is 1238 00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:19,680 a very damning book about our 1239 00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:21,040 educational system 1240 00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:24,400 in america that was 1993 and because of 1241 00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:26,319 that we are in the situation we are in 1242 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:27,599 today 1243 00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,480 uh black black economist from stanford 1244 00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:31,920 right 1245 00:46:37,349 --> 00:46:34,560 exactly hoover institute uh he's got 1246 00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:37,359 books out intellectuals and race 1247 00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:40,160 discrimination and disparities and and 1248 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:40,720 these are 1249 00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,319 not just opinion uh pieces 1250 00:46:49,030 --> 00:46:47,119 it's very heavily documented uh with 1251 00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,040 citations to studies 1252 00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,280 uh analysis that has been conducted over 1253 00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:52,960 time and whatever 1254 00:46:59,589 --> 00:46:56,079 and so you know this is this 1255 00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:59,599 in my opinion is why america was ripe 1256 00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:02,240 to be infiltrated by an ideology like 1257 00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,920 critical race theory 1258 00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:06,319 uh we haven't been prepared to think 1259 00:47:10,309 --> 00:47:07,280 critically 1260 00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,319 and to mimic so yeah 1261 00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,839 well and you know you've got the the 1262 00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,680 slavery pass that everybody feels guilty 1263 00:47:19,030 --> 00:47:15,280 about that's easy to 1264 00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:19,040 to play on um but yeah it's it's racist 1265 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,720 in and of itself because it's basically 1266 00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,720 telling the black community that you are 1267 00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:25,200 incapable of succeeding you you need 1268 00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,920 the you need government slash white 1269 00:47:33,270 --> 00:47:29,599 people 1270 00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:33,280 order for you to to change in order for 1271 00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:34,160 you to succeed 1272 00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,599 or you need the government to do 1273 00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:37,680 something in order for you to succeed 1274 00:47:43,030 --> 00:47:40,880 when in fact the tools are right 1275 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:43,040 in front of the the there's absolutely 1276 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:44,720 nothing in the way of anyone in the 1277 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,760 black community 1278 00:47:49,510 --> 00:47:47,200 from succeeding on their own they don't 1279 00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,520 need white people to help them 1280 00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:51,359 they don't need the government to help 1281 00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:53,040 them they can do it 1282 00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:55,200 all on their own and it's right it's 1283 00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:56,640 racist to to suggest 1284 00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:00,000 that they cannot do it on their own 1285 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:02,720 well why why is sorry why is this asian 1286 00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:03,760 community able to do 1287 00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:05,359 do it on its own why is this jewish 1288 00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:06,960 community able to do us on but the black 1289 00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,599 community 1290 00:48:10,630 --> 00:48:09,839 can't do it on its own you need whitey 1291 00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:10,640 or you need 1292 00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:15,440 government yep no 1293 00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:18,480 blacks have been used as instruments 1294 00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,599 by the political left in america an 1295 00:48:25,309 --> 00:48:22,800 individual by name of 1296 00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:25,319 manning johnson you can google 1297 00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,720 manningjohnson.org 1298 00:48:29,829 --> 00:48:28,480 it takes you to a website he does he's 1299 00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,839 not alive right now 1300 00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:31,520 but he was recruited by the communist 1301 00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:33,680 party and 1302 00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,800 he was sort of their front man to 1303 00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:38,160 agitate 1304 00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:41,359 the negroes in that era and when he saw 1305 00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:42,800 what was happening that they were being 1306 00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,079 manipulated 1307 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,839 to agitate the blacks to make them feel 1308 00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:47,280 oppressed or whatever 1309 00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,640 and it was the communist uh 1310 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,559 intellectuals that were going to take 1311 00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:54,400 care of him and he 1312 00:48:59,350 --> 00:48:56,960 he broke from the communist party bella 1313 00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,360 dodd has written a fabulous book called 1314 00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:01,200 [Music] 1315 00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:04,000 school of darkness she was recruited 1316 00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:05,599 into the communist party back in the 1317 00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:06,880 1930s 1318 00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,200 teaching at hunter college and then she 1319 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:11,200 found out how evil it was and she tried 1320 00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:12,480 to break loose from it and they wouldn't 1321 00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:13,680 let her they said nobody leaves a 1322 00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,960 communist party 1323 00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,559 and then one day she gets a call from 1324 00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:18,240 the associated press 1325 00:49:22,230 --> 00:49:20,640 basically asking her some questions and 1326 00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:22,240 you know she didn't have a response the 1327 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,200 next day 1328 00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:25,920 it was all spread in the new york papers 1329 00:49:28,549 --> 00:49:27,040 that she'd been expelled from the 1330 00:49:30,470 --> 00:49:28,559 communist party 1331 00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,480 so they've been in existence in america 1332 00:49:36,470 --> 00:49:32,400 since 1919 1333 00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:36,480 without a break you can go to cpusa.org 1334 00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:38,559 and and they're open they're hiding in 1335 00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:39,599 the open 1336 00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:43,119 uh in 2018 john bachtel 1337 00:49:46,549 --> 00:49:45,040 the chairman of the the american 1338 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,559 communist party 1339 00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:49,200 published an article about their success 1340 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:50,079 in 1341 00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:56,960 based on their 53 000 model 50 states 1342 00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,520 3 000 counties it's out there it's 1343 00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,040 hiding in the open 1344 00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:04,559 yeah but but back if you 1345 00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:05,839 if you get a chance if you haven't 1346 00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:08,240 already to interview bob woodson 1347 00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:11,359 from the woodson center bob marched with 1348 00:50:16,870 --> 00:50:13,280 martin luther king jr 1349 00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:16,880 uh during the uh civil rights movement 1350 00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:20,319 uh and he's very aligned with 1351 00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:22,400 our thinking on this and and you're 1352 00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:24,160 thinking i mean the points you made bob 1353 00:50:30,309 --> 00:50:27,520 woodson makes those uh emphatically 1354 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,319 carol swain uh former professor 1355 00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:31,920 vanderbilt 1356 00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:34,400 you know she's been part of the 1776 1357 00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:35,200 project 1358 00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,200 pushing into the school systems 1359 00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,520 is there any debate as to what side 1360 00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:43,520 martin luther king would be on 1361 00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:47,119 if you were alive today on our side 1362 00:50:49,910 --> 00:50:48,319 you know we should be judged by the 1363 00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:49,920 content of her character not the call of 1364 00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,280 our skin 1365 00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:53,760 thank you again to dr scott if you want 1366 00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:54,720 to support 1367 00:50:59,270 --> 00:50:56,480 stars you can check out their web 1368 00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:59,280 website s-t-a-r-r-s 1369 00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:00,880 thank you to our producer michael parker 1370 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:02,400 we'll be back soon with another episode 1371 00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:08,160 of the hidden truth show 1372 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,680 thank 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